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Is Ty Coughlin’s Reverse Funnel System a Pyramid Scheme?
You’ve probably seen this banner to the left while surfing the internet, about a “Beach Bum” who is making millions of dollars with his laptop.If you’re an avid internet marketer or entrepeneur there’s no way you could overlook the latest “Big Program”. In two short months, Ty Coughlin’s Reverse Funnel System has invaded the internet by storm, taking up ground in every corner of the internet imaginable. From Myspace to Squidoo to Facebook to YouTube, invading ever marketing blog, popping up in every traffic exchange, autosurf, PPC advertising program, every nook and cranny, there’s no where you can go to escape it. The reach of this program is highly remniscent of 12DailyPro’s saturation in 2005, when you couldn’t spend more than a half hour on the internet without seeing a 12DailyPro banner or advertisment somewhere.
Is The Reverse Funnel System an MLM ?
From what I’ve seen of the Reverse Funnel System, it doesn’t seem like there is an actual product that is being promoted but the general idea is to promote and encourage new members into the program. While many conventional MLM’s have an element of roping in new members to earn from the program, they also have some sort of product they are promoting as well. When I think of MLM’s, the first thing that comes to mind is Amway and Herbalife, both of which have useless products that are horribly overpriced. Both Amway and Herbalife are the scourge of the working world and anybody who has ever worked in a large office has experienced that terribly over-zealous co-worker who tries to push the products on everybody in the work enviornment much like Jehova Witnesses knock on doors seeking to convert people.
Enter the Kool-Aid Drinking
For those who are unaware what the term “Kool-Aid Drinking” means, it’s a reference to the Rev. Jim Jones and his infamous Peoples Temple that left the United States citing religious persecution and relocated to Jonestown, Guyana in the 1970’s. Eventually, the cult commit mass suicide by drinking poisoned Kool-Aid resulting in one of the most bizzare and tragic genocidal incedents in modern times. The reference to “Kool-Aid Drinking” in today’s internet marketing community refers to any cultish group of people who follow through blind devotion with a dollar bill dangling in front of their face and a whip being cracked across their back. A good example of “Kool-Aid Drinking” is the marketing flop Agolco. When Agloco debuted, thousands upon thousands of people flocked to the new messiah and proclaimed Agloco to be “the answer”, yet almost a full year later, Agloco is all but washed up and burnt out with nobody having earned a dime for all their hard work. As if people haven’t wised up yet, I’m seeing the same people who praised and hailed Agloco now hailing Ty Coughlin as the second coming of Christ and The Reverse Funnel System as the answer to all their prayers.
So What About all Those People With Expensive Cars and Big Houses on Ty’s Site?
I have to admit, in one respect it makes me want to laugh and in another respect it makes me want to cry when I see the affiliate pages for the Reverse Funnel System. The testimonials are what interest me the most because for a program that’s not even two months old yet, it’s quite impossible for those people with the fancy cars and big houses to have profited enough from Ty’s program to make those high dollar purchases. Intrinsicly, the advertising is false and misleading and although most entrepeneurs are intelligent enough to see through the thinly veiled disguise, the fact remains that many, many stupid people will fall for the bling bling and part with their hard earned money and part with their time only to make the people at the top of the food chain fatten their wallets.
Reverse Funnel or Reverse Psychology?
The thing that turns me off the most to The Reverse Funnel System is the high pressure sales pitch. Especially when the dialogue goes into a rant about potential associates needing several thousand dollars to get started and then it switches into the minimal $50 fee, then back again into the principle that “it takes money to make money”. I had to take a dramamine pill for motion sickness after reading halfway through the sales pitch. For all the hullaballoo and hot air, there was still nothing I found tangible or concrete about the offer. There was no honest and open disclosure of how the system really works, just a whole lot of promising doubletalk and typical marketing fluff I’ve seen a thousand times over.
Is There Any Hope for an Average Person to Make Money With RFS?
If you haven’t been suckered into this clever little game yet and are still contemplating joining, do yourself a favor and first check out how saturated this program is in Google Adwords and realize that the pyramid has already been built several layers already by the professional hustlers and marketing players.
The Mother Theresa of Making Money
There’s one particular point that needs to be addressed whenever somebody tells you they’re going to share their “secret for success” for a price. If the secret recipe were really so lucrative, why on earth would somebody water down their business earnings by selling their ideas to others? From a business perspective that just doesn’t make sense. All great companies and corporations protect their secrets at all costs so as not to dilute their income streams. There are no “Good Samaratin’s” in the business world and anybody who would try to tell you otherwise has a vested interest in your pocketbook. While believing in dreams is a positive thing, believing in somebody else’s dreams will only cause you to lose sleep.
Trickle Down Economics and the Funnel Spill-Over
Every single one of these “systems” claims there is a “trickle down” cashflow, meaning when your upline’s referrals max out, further referrals will “spill over” into your account. As many times as I’ve heard these claims made by the system managers and promoters, I’ve never heard a single person state that they had earned from “spill over”. Considering the nature of these programs and how people get hyped, surely there would be some evidence that this trickle down theory actually exists as anything more as another marketing ploy.
Closing Comments
While at Code4Gold, we do not pretend to be an authority or a legal organization, we are here to merely offer a differing opinion to the cheerleaders and promoters. The final decision to join or not to join “The Reverse Funnel System” is yours and yours alone. I have personally submitted my email to this program for more information as promised on the homepage but all I’ve received is a daily does of spam email with different pitches all leading back to the same old marketing page. So, if you do decide to take a shot with this, one thing I do recommend is signing up a free email account with Yahoo or Gmail for this program alone, because like “Death of Adsense” or any of these marketing extravaganzas, you will receive spam for years to come if you give an email address you care about.
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Is Ty Coughlin’s Reverse Funnel System Legit or a Scam?
by Ripped Off
i joined it and failed miserably…im still fighting with my credit card company to get back my $3,070 refund..
also i heard by word of good authority Mr Coughlin is earning apprx $400,000 monthly off his system (he charges $300 monthly to several thousands of members for the use of a simple back office with lousy upline support (like i had) others were lucky…the phone calls daily were good and uplifting….but one couldnt speak his mind..as they muted us most of the time..no negatives were aloud about the company..
now im doing something simple and stupid to make back a few bucks here and there..
” I love to follow in the footsteps of Giants”…
by lucas131
I made just yesteday with Reverse Funnel System $3000 just promoting it! Its really amazing system with great compensation plan. If anyone would like to get know more about this system let me know.
by Ty Coughlin
I am Ty Couglin and I will tell you that I’m not a scam and my system is not a pyramid scheme. It’s based on true marketing principles and experience and if you are too scared to check it out for yourself and try it out then you will never know what you’re missing.
by Rookah
This is a scam plain and simple. Don’t believe all the hype, you will just lose money here.
by MakingCashHandOverfist
ya’ll are a bunch of crazy fruitcakes. This system really works and I can prove it. Just go to my website
http://www.freeinfo247.com
You’ll see that Ty Coughlin’s system really works. Don’t listen to all these loser who are commenting here. Listen to the real facts and go out and make yourself some cash.
by Cattysha
lucas131 is just a ponzi promoting pimp and a liar. Only a real moron would believe that they can make $3000 in on day promoting a scam ponzi pyramid scheme like this. If you want to learn the real truth about these schemes and scams just click on my link and come to my forum and we’ll set you straight about scams and scammers.
by Clymaxx
Smells like a scam to me. I look at the website and there is not one mention of anything actually being sold but the system itself. I can’t help but be skeptical of a system that promises to make you $1000 a day with “absolutely no previous skill, knowledge, or experience”. I don’t know what it is, but I know that only one guy is making any money on this.
by Forex Trader
It looks like the buzz on this system is slowing down because I’m not seeing it advertised everywhere like I was a month ago. I wonder how many people lost money on this one? I know one lady friend who sunk over $4000 into the Reverse Funnel System and she never made a dime.
by Jess
I wish I read this article before I got burned by this program. I lost over $800 for nothing. It’s not the moeny I paid in, I spent another $500 in advertising anf hours of my tim. This is a scam. stay away.
by Jared
I don’t know why so many of you dis this program. It’s like anything else. If you don’t work hard to make money with it you’re gonna fail. With any program faliure rate vs. Success rate is disproportiante. You can guarantee anything except that if you buy into the program and focus on it you can make good returns.
by Realist
That’s all well said and done but the truth is this is a ponzi and the ones at the top who know how to drag unsuspecting people in and try to give them lame advice on promoting will always be the ones who make the most moeny. Considering it’s a ponzi, of course, the top level people will alway profit from the money the inexperienced toss into the system. REgardless, it’s still a ponzi or pyramid. From what disgruntled members shared with me about the materials the system hands youonce you join, it’s totally set to rape the newbies and fill the pockets of the people at the top of the pyramid.
I won’t be at all suprised if thr SEC and FTC shut this one down.
by Barry
This should be called the “funnel into Ty’s pocket” scheme. This program totally sucks.
by Barry
I forgot to add. I lost $6K in this scam. Don’t waste your money or believe the hype. This one is a loser.
by Tanya
I know better than to mess with a site like this. It looks liek a scam the minute you click on the ads everywhere. How could anybody be dumb ehough to put $3000 or $6000 into a scam like this ?
by C4G
I’m not seeing as many ads for this program as I was a few months ago. Could it be that the pool of noobs and rubes is drying up ?
by Dannielle
The whole premise of tis program is rather crude and I don’t really understand why anybody would be baited in by the ugly picture of that horrible stoner hippie guy sitting in his bathing suit by some pool.
by Jurgen
This program is crazy. They want too much money for nothing and it looke just like another scheme to me.
by Pumper
Coughlin’s Reverse Funnel System is scam, stay away from these guys… please have a look at this
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AuigwbRry7Uo0_A06Jf74nojzKIX;_ylv=3?qid=20080108111118AAQJpKO
by Todd Ash
Hello,
I have read some of the comments on this page and I can understand a few of them.
There is a product being sold, it is called Global Resorts International.It is as real as the internet.
The Reverse Funnel System is a Sales tool to help promote the sale of GRN(Global Resorts International).
RFS(Reverse Funnel System) is not a scam because we are selling an actual product and using a powerful system to do so.
So you bought in for $3,000.00 and don’t know where your money went? You paid for a Global Resorts International Lifetime Membership.That is yours for life.You save a ton of money when you travel. You will pay less than $800 to stay at a 5 star resort,while others pay as much as $3,700.00 to stay at the same place.
If you have joined and your upline is not helping you that is too bad,you need to be on the right team.
Under U.S. federal law this is not a Pyramid Scheme or a Ponzi Scheme.If it were ,with the amount of money that is being made it would have been shut down already.
I can tell you by joining the right team and understanding how the back office is used the SYSTEM really works.
As with any business some people succeed while others fail. You need to work on yourself more than your business and you and your business will begin to grow.
Making money online is not a mystery or hit or miss. It is a science. If you do have the proper knowledge you may not succeed !
You also need to learn about marketing not advertising if you want see long lasting results.
If you are in this business and not making any headway email me toddash@getresponse.com and I will give you some assistance and advice about being successful online.
Yours In Success,
Todd Ash
Reverse Funnel System Member and Consultant
toddash@getresponse.com
by Gareth
I paid the money to join and never made a single penny of my money back. I’m just glad I didn’t follow a lot of my upline’s advice and take out expensive ads promoting the program. It is definitely a pyramid schm because only the ones at the top seriouslt profit. The rest of us are expect to tow the anchor and help funnel the money back up to the top,
by Jess
The only funneling going on here is money gets funnelled from your bank account into Ty Coughlins. Hene the name “reverse funnel”. Very creative indeed.
by C4G
@Todd, When I wrote this article I had only signed up for the system and after seeing the startup costs I decided it wasn’t for me. I wasnt aware the Reverse Funnel system is/was affiliated with GRN and/or the timeshare/resort business.
Personally, I don’t see the market for this product and not unlike RCI, this industry (and the rest of the luxury industry) is about to hit hard times because of the current economy and impending recession.
As a resident of Florida for over 30 years, I remember the 80’s and when the luxury industry collapsed. Kids I went to middle school with parents living in big houses because of selling timeshares were suddenly selling their homes and moving the family into dingy little apartments. The same ripple effect hit the boating and luxury car industry in South Florida. My grandparents owned several hotels and were forced to sell a few because of lack of tourism.
Facts are, the tourism industry is down like a rock and this is only the beginning of the end for this cycle. It’s going to get worse. I currently live in Daytona Beach, a stones throw from Orlando. We are getting a lot of touists staying in Daytona with kids because of Disney and theme parks but Orlando has very expensive room rates, so many families opt ot stay here in the local mom+pop hotels that are 1/4 the rate of an Orlando resort.
IMHO, this is a bad time to be pimping resorts, timeshares and vacation packages but best of luck in your endeavor.
by Jess
So is that what this system is really selling, vacation timeshares ? Why is there so much secrecy until you pay the money to join? I’m not sure hat the initial $200 to start really covers either. Perhaps Todd could better explain this.
by Todd Ash
@C4G,
I also grew up in the eighties and lived in a resort city.I watched people make a lot of money and lose a lot of money. Nevertheless tourism still continued. My father passed away in 2001 and was very infuential and quite wealthy. My family and my fathers estate are part owners of several hotels in Las Vegas. There is no recession in the travel industry. People want to live the American dream. The American dream includes money,a nice home and travel. If your grandparents had to sell their properties it was due to poor money management and lack of business skills(no offense).
In any case the Global Resorts Package is quite valuable because it is a lifetime membership and can be willed to a loved one when you die.
Here Is A Real Member Testimonial.
One of our members recently submitted their booking experience and savings of over $4800 here…
“Membership was showcasing two units at the Hacienda Del Mar
for the month of March. Our family had been wanting to take
a vacation for quite a while and were excited to be using our membership for the first time. Because we would be getting two units through this offering, we wanted our immediate family of four (2 adults & 2 children) to stay in one of the units, and have “Grammy & Pappa” along to stay in the other.
The problem however, was that each unit had a max occupancy
of two. I contacted the customer service and made a request for all of us to be able to go, despite the max occupancy posting per unit.They contacted the resort on our behalf and E-mailed us back the very next day. They stated that they had great news.The customer service arranged an exception for all of us to go;(our family of 4 in one unit & the grandparents in the other) No extra charge! They also wished all of us a wonderful vacation and told us not to have any worries about our accommodations.
We had our confirmation within 48 hours and are now preparing for an incredible vacation. With tax and service and everything included, our total membership cost for both units for 8 days and seven nights was $699. Obviously we checked around to see what we would have paid elsewhere. Expedia was the only major travel provider with availability at the time, and were asking $2,784.60 for the same unit for the exact week.
Booking two of these units through Expedia would have cost us $5,569.20 for just the accommodations. Our first booking throughmembership saved us over $4800 on the accommodations alone. We then booked our flight directly through the membership and saved an additional $300 from what we would have paid through
Expedia.
Thank you Global Resorts!
Neil”
Here is an exmaple. New York has a record year for tourist in 07,not since 911 however in the history of New York! What do you think about that.
Here is The Link To The Article
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080113/ap_on_bi_ge/nyc_tourism_record
You mention the impending recession. Would you like to put your money where your mouth is and make a bet with me about this recession. That is pure speculation. I certainly hope you are not investor because your way of thinking is dangerously old fashioned.
The travel industry is a 4 billion dollar a year industry and yet you do not see the market for it.I am sorry to say it seems to me that you have no clue about reality and have a severe case of tunnel vision(no offense).
Yours In Success,
Todd Ash
toddash@getresponse.com
by Todd Ash
My Friends,
The Reverse Funnel System is not about purchasing advertising to create your business. It is about learning the art of Marketing.If you joined and your upline said go and buy advertising and you did that may have not been the right thing to do.
Some people happen to have a ton of money to waste on simple high dollar advertising campaigns. However the long lasting results come from marketing. Marketing a product or opportunity will give you long,long lasting results as opposed to short term advertising campaigns where the money always runs out.
If you knew the proper technique you could make at least $5,000.00 a week from Myspace.com and do it for free. I happen to use this technique in my business and it works.I have over 15 MySpace.com accounts with 4,000 friends for each page. You do the numbers(60,000). I can send ads to all of my friends and post messages to all of my friends. Did I mention I did with a totally automated system. My friends grow by the thousands weekly.
I also have over 600 ads running on Craigslist.com right now. Do you think that is worth a little bit of money.Craigslist.com only allows you to have one account and will let you run about 6 ads.I have several accounts with more than 6 ads running on each. How do I do that. It is a marketing secret that real marketers do not want you to know about,that is why you may never find out about it.
I also have videos out there running around all over the place. Want to see one. Go to http://www.Google.com and look up the search phrases.
Tucson Internet Business
Orlando Internet Business
Forth Worth Internet Business
Miami Internet Business
Tucson Sales Positions
Just For Kicks go to http://www.Yahoo.com and look up the search phrase “Top Secret Levitation” You Will See A Video I Produced Just For Fun and It is Actually Quite Cool !This video is in the #1 position if anybody cares.
These are just a few example search terms . Anyway If you look up those search phrases you will see that my videos are in the 1-5 position. I put those videos in the top 5 positions in less than 10 minutes. They were indexed by Google and placed in those positions in less than 10 minutes. I can do the same for any search phrase and with any video.This is also a technique you may never figure out.
It all comes down to MARKETING and what you know,not what you think you know.
If you are interested in learning you may join my mailing list where I share a few techniques that will surely change the way you look at doing business online.
Send an email to toddash@getresponse.com to get my mailer.
Your In Success,
Todd Ash
toddash@getresponse.com
by Chopper
Is it true that Ty Couglin was one the singer for some failed emo/punk band outta LA? I heard that’s where he learned his marketing ginnicks from trying to promote his band.
by Scam_Buster
Someone’s been drinking the Kool-Aid again. I’ll give you three guesses as to who is punch drunk and euphoric on this trainwreck,
@Todd, so please tell me, exactly how high up on the food chain are you in this scheme?
by Snowball
I don’t think Todd’s a big fan of the NY Times or doesn’t read the paper. It’s not just Dave here who is saying we’re already in the midst of a recession…
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/14/opinion/14krugman.html
Seems columnist Paul Krugman has a similar opinion to most of us regarding the recession we’re already in. Keep dreaming.
by C4G
Nice try Todd but you’re not going to sell me on something by putting me or my family down. FYI, in regards to your comment “If your grandparents had to sell their properties it was due to poor money management and lack of business skills(no offense)”, first, let me tell you my grandfather was a Noble prize laurate who worked in Cancer Research at the Mayo Clinic in Minneapolis. The hotels were investments and my grandparents had staff that handled the management. The resulting sale of properties was directly due to a decline in tourism and over-inflated oceanfront property values in the 1980’s in the area of South Florida where I grew up. The area has been undergoing re-vitilization for over 10 years.
You also stated “You mention the impending recession. Would you like to put your money where your mouth is and make a bet with me about this recession. That is pure speculation. I certainly hope you are not investor because your way of thinking is dangerously old fashioned.”
I don’t gamble because only fools risk the money they work for. Which is why I’m not interested in “Get Rich Quick” schemes like the Reverse Funnel system. I am a retired IBM systems analyst and through that gig I was licensed (NASD 7&63) while working a contract for Raymond James. I make my money shorting stocks. You are aware how the Kennedy family made their millions with Joe Kennedy shorting heavily before the Great Depression ? In certain circles, a recession and a poor housing market are a shrewd investor’s (with liquidity) wet dream. Recessions don’t impact those with equity and liquidity, they impact the working class and nouveau riche who have failed to study the past.
As far as your claim to fame on having 600 Craigslist ads and 15 MySpace accounts, congratulations, you’re a admitted spammer with no ethics. Make all the money you want that way (and I seriusly doubt you’re pulling $5K per week off MySpace) but I hope you heard the news today that both Myspace and Craigslist are going to be enacting stricter identification methods to portect children from predators, a backside to that story is both of them (and Facebook) are trying to flush all the marketers and spammers out of the system as well.
I guess I’ll just struggle by on my measley $5K per month pension (ha, and I’m not even 40yo and retired) plus the $3-$5Kper month I make from running a network of successful websites and a web-hoting company. Oh, and if I travel for contract work, comps are a perk of the trade. I’ve never paid for a hotel room in my life
by C4G
@Chopper, I heard Ty Coughlin had been the bass player for some lame emo bands…
Look What I Did
http://www.purevolume.com/lookwhatidid
Life’s All Over (L.A.O)
http://www.myspace.com/lao
both list “Ty Coughlin” as bassist and one of the dudes in the pics looks a lot like the guy in that dorky photo of some hippie sitting with a Macbook by a pool giving the schwanky “hang ten” sign…
God, I hate EMO bands as much as I do internet marketers… I’d love to see Glenn Danzig pimping some Reverse Misfits system selling human skulls of network and MLM marketers to Hatian witchdoctors…
by Todd Ash
C4G,
I am not trying to sell you anything my friend nor put your family down.When it comes to making money online marketing is a a science not a hit or miss deal. Either you will make money online or you will not.If you are making $3k-5k a month on the internet you should learn about marketing because I would say you are waisting your time.
Did you know 97% of all email sent in 2007 was spam.
Do you really believe is is unethical to make money using these billion dollar companies like Myspace.com,Youtube.com,Facebook.com etc.
I am younger than you are my friend and when it comes to making money and business I doubt you sat next to anybody like me while you were in your cubicle at IBM.
You don’t like to gamble,is that a fact. I know your type. You have an answer and a reason for everything. Shorting stocks and making a killing is that where it is. My friend you should be named “The Gambler” because if that is where you make your money I would not be surprised if you were bald.You must handle stress and uncertainty very well.
Unlike your business mine is recession proof can you say that about yours?
Back in the day my family cornered the silver market. If you were involved with any type of trading company,do your homework and you will find out about my family.
Most people when asked about being rich said they would rather have a guilty conscience and be rich than have a clear conscience and be poor.This was a statement by a billionaire guest on Oprah.
I have been self-employed since I was seventeen.I am just a few years younger than you.
Your perks for traveling will die out when your career with that organization ends. Then what?
Try not to contradict yourself in your next posting.
I only have 500 websites and I am sure I cannot compete with you. I am not a spammer I am a professional network marketer with a phd in Attraction Marketing.
Take it easy,try not to take everything so personal.This is just a blog and I was not putting you on the offensive was not my intention,I apologize. I am posting this this message because of your rhetorical remarks,its all good.
I travel in style 5 star luxury all the way. I don’t need to be comped because I can pay my own way,accept when I am in Las Vegas than it is comp city.
On this final note you sound like a nice enough sort and I wish you all the best!
Yours In Success,
Todd
by Marcus
KUDOS. You are the first out of 40 pages that I found that had some negative feed on this system. BTW an English company has been creating the 15 minute, 15,000 word web site for 4 years now. They use syntax exchange and computer text changers to whip out Ad Sense pages in seconds. The Reverse Funnel guys should have got one. It’s the only way to clog out “ripoffreport” and the like in search engines.
clapping for you.
by Robin
They ask for your money in advance without telling you what the business is. That is called the “advance fee scam” (google it). Regardless of whether or not the underlying business is a legal enterprise, it does not justify the fact that people are being deceived and losing money as a result. The money lost enriches the perpetrators of the scheme.
by wilson
this is all a bunch of crap, ty is a loser and a scam artist. He and all the other people who sign up for this waste of time are the reason we are having economic troubles in this country. You cant get something for nothing, anywhere!!!!But you can lose allot for nothing. Try working at a real job. if everybody in the US was in this program, how the hell would anybody but the people at the top of the food chain, like that piece of manure ty, be making any money? What happens when all of the people whop are interested in it sign up? then who will pay your 5000 a week salary. I can make that much to, by buying and selling ACTUAL products, and who would of thought, actually working. so now tell me how your stupid product is recession proof. Knowing how to do something, i mean having a craft or a trade, knowing how to survive on your own without all the little wheels paying your way, that is recession proof. anyone who signs up for this financial death trap will be sorry in the years to come, maybe even months!!!!!!!!! LOSERS
by C4G
Excellent comment wilson, I couldn’t agree with you more. If these “Get Rich Quick” schemes really worked why would anybody work for a living anymore.
It’s like all those scammy “automated Forex trading” systems you see that proclaim you’ll constantly be in profit if you buy and use their system. If it were possible to get something for nothing, everybody would be doing it and the financial systems of the world would collapse.
I’ll never figure out why people fall for crap like this.
@Marcus, thanks for the kudos. Here at C4G, we try to level the playingfield and give truthful insight.
by wilson
word!!!!! no wonder we are in a recession and headed for a depression. When that happens that loser sob ty will still be a beach bum, but he will be living in a cardboard box on the strip begging all the people who have real world skills for kick downs, but i guess thats not far off what hes scamming now!!!!!hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!! And im sure that global resort networks(if thats what it is called)is a legit operation, but it makes me wonder why they would give a lifetime membership away for so cheap to anybody, and hook up the deals they give at the timeshares. Are they hurting for money? Are they on the verge of going under so they are trying to suck the population for all its worth before they go belly up!! the travel and time share business is not going to good right now, worse than the housing market i hear. They say its a lifetime membership and can be put in your will, but what are you a member of if the company disappears in the next few years.
by wilson
WORD!!! thanks to sites like this one we can get more of the truth out there to the people who only hear lies. Since our country is in a recession and possibly headed for another depression, we need to take a closer look at where our money came from, what its doing now, and where its going. in a few years when this thing fizzles out, ty will still be a beach bum, except now he will be living in a luxurious cardboard box on the strip, begging people with real world skills for spare change. but i guess thats not far off of what he is doing now!!!HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!and im sure that this global resorts network is a legit business, but it makes me wonder why they would give these cheap rates to just about anybody, and give there timeshares for so cheap. Are they hurting for $$$$ ? ive heard that the travel and timeshare business is doing worse than the housing market. So are they trying to suck the population dry before they go belly up? making it look like great deals but all you end up with is a piece a paper that says your a member to something that does not exist. they are trying to get as much as they can before they go, its happened before with big business, and its going to happen again……soon…..anyway, thanks again for sites like this, trying to uncover the truth in a world buried in lies.
by wilson
sorry about the double post , i dont know what happened.
by Rajeesh
I agree with the last comment that people are hurting for money right now and these schemes prey on them as innocent victims. I’m not saying The Reverse Funnel System is a scam and condemning it. I’m saying it’s a scheme and unless you’re a good schemer you will probably lose your money in it.
by Emo
I couldn’t agree more, especially with this part :
“many stupid people will fall for the bling bling”
When I first started this IM business I kept buying ebooks and other stuff but I like to think I was intelligent enough to figure out that the free stuff you find on forums mostly is worth a lot more - and I only spent £100 on eBooks which I believe not to be much compared to what other people spent.
by David
Hi Todd,
This is an email I’ve sent to mind Power News. This is a scam because your led to believe that for $50 Ty will consider your application and take on a handful of people that he’ll personally work with, and nurture. In actual fact most probably everyones $50 is taken, and no-ones ‘application’ is reviewed at all, least of all by Ty!
When you are ‘passed’ and congratulated you then find out it’ll cost you an extra $3000 to keep in the game - or you lose your $50!!
If that isn’t a scam I don’t know what is mate!
Your thoughts?
Best Regards
Dave
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To: Mind Power News
Subject: RE:
Date:
Hi
I’m very disappointed and felt mislead by this Reverse Funnel System. Basically for $50 I got the chance to potentially be accepted to work with Ty Coughlin who’s going great bucks. Then you find that to keep in the game you need a further $3000 ‘commitment’ (oh, you also find out what that bit of small print meant - if you don’t join the platinum scheme your not eligable for the money back offer!!).
I Don’t have the means to get $3000 right now, and so am automatically filtered out of the Reverse Funnel System - and $50 poorer! which I can’t get refunded apparently!!
So very misleading and I feel I’ve been conned here.
Anything you can do about this!
A start would be to not advertise this reverse funnel system; I appreciate the information I’ve got from Mind Power News and a lot of people look to this publication for advice - you may start loosing a bunch of readers and get bad publicity if you continue to promote this system!!
Best Regards
Dave
Another thing Todd, C4G was bringing valid comment to the forum, so your out of order dissing him and his family. Thats certainly not going to get people interested in getting advice or discussion from you.
However any constructive dialogue would be great.
by C4G
I’ve turned down at least 10 people who have wanted to advertise the Reverse Funnel System on my blogs and forum but I don’t want those ads on my site because I can’t honestly allow visitors to my sites to be potentially ripped off by this scheme.
by Marky
I wish I had read this article when it was published. It would have saved me a lot of money
by Todd
My Friends,
RFS just like any other MLM Business rely only each members marketing skills. There is no difference between RFS,Passport To Wealth,EDC Gold,Six Figure Income etc.. All MLM companies that are referred to as MLM(Multi Level Marketing)are based on marketing. Now I have made a ton of money with RFS and that is because I have been marketing online for 12 years. When you join The Reverse Funnel System it is all about joining the right team. If you join the right team you will receive training in the field of marketing. There is no magic button in the afore mentioned MLM’s that are going to make you rich. RFS is not a get rich quick scheme. The $50.00 application fee is to make sure you are stable enough to join this program and build a business. If you are strapped for cash and are looking to get rich overnight I suggest you stay away from the internet until you are financially stable. At that point you may wish to create a stream of income from the internet. Once again it takes time to build an online business and many people that join MLM programs have got it in their heads that they are going to get rich overnight. Some people may have failed with RFS because it is a high ticket item which takes expert marketing skills to promote.RFS is just a MARKETING SYSTEM,that is all.I do agree,that it may be somewhat misleading to the common person or newbie,that is why you should investigate all opportunities before you join.
I am not defending RFS nor am I promoting RFS,I am only stating a few facts about the organization and MLM companies as a whole.
If you have joined the RFS program than you are a member of GRN. In the back office of GRN you will find a company to promote GRN. This marketing system is only $30.00 opposed to the $330.00 RFS system.
Here is The Link:
http://www.grnsystem.com
So you may drop the RFS system and still promote GRN with this system . It is just as powerful if not more powerful than the RFS system and it is certainly more effective and affordable. In my opinion it is better that than RFS and much better lead capture pages and does everything the Reverse Funnel System does and much more !
Hope This Clears Up A Few Issues.
Yours In Success,
Todd
http://www.ToddAsh.com
by Todd
David,
I did not intend on “dissing” C4G ,he brought that on himself.I do not need any followers at this point because I have plenty as it is although I am always looking for new friends.
My business is helping people create an online business and income stream from the internet. Some people believe they know it all already and that it is why they fail on the internet. It all comes down to knowledge or lack therof.
If you would take the time to search for me on http://www.Google.com or http://www.Yahoo.com Under the search term “Todd Ash” you will find that I have a very strong online presence and that I do know what I am talking about.
I don’t owe anybody on this board an explanation about RFS I am posting information about the company and marketing out of courtesy. You might say this is a “Courtesy Call”.
I will not be posting to this blog or answering any questions from this website.This will be my last comment as my time is valuable and I won’t waste anymore of it on this particluar site.
Best wishes and good luck to you all. I truly hope that you find success or whatever you may be looking for and I mean that from the bottom of my heart.
P.S. David you can get your $50 back by contacting your credit card company and telling them that the company failed to deliver and you will get a refund. The refund can also be given back by the person you signed up underneath.
My postings are meant to be positive not negative,so if I have offended anybody, I do apologize.
Yours In Success,
Todd Ash
http://www.ToddAsh.com
by Freedom
I was so skeptical when I saw the advertisement for this program. I have tried so many online programs and wasted THOUSANDS of dollars in start up costs just HOPING that it would work. After being disappointed so many times, I looked into this just out of curiosity not expectation. Needless to say, this SYSTEM BLEW MY MIND. I have never seen a system so well prepared that anyone can do it. You are set up so well that you are guaranteed for success.
As with any business you have to invest but is it not worth it to have your own business and live in financial freedom. Anyone that tells you that you can have something for nothing is definitely telling you a lie. That is guaranteed to be a scam. RFS gives you an air tight proven system. They are serious about the business and training you to succeed because you all succeed together. They even have to qualify you for you to participate, so this is no flake.
I searched and heard the good with the bad about this company prior to applying. There are always going to be people out there who are not successful because Bottom Line, they did not try. If you are looking for money to fall out the sky it is not going to happen. But if you are willing to put in some work and reap the immediate thousands of benefits, this is the system for you. It is just that, a proven system. If you can follow directions, you can have financial freedom NOW!
If you want to just see what I am talking about take a visit to: www.thousanddollarprofits.com/cansice
I guarantee you will not be disappointed. I have searched everything and now I have finally found it!
by JungleKing
I’d like to offer my .02 cents. I was a sucker who actually purchased the RFS in September, and used it for a few months before cutting my losses. Although I did make an early sale, the amount of dollars I was putting into advertising was astronomical. They tell you it’s as easy as pumping in advertising money and the traffic will convert… complete crap. They leave A LOT of the details out like the 300 monthly fee, plus another $30 fee. Before you know it, you’re down a couple grand with very little to show for it. I know there are many “success” stories floating about but I made a huge effort at the end to find those who did not fare too well. There are many who fall in that category too. Like someone mentioned, they obviously won’t publicize it, cuz it is humiliating to admit you got jacked.
Looking back on it, I wish I had never done it. The experience really soured my view on these types of online marketing companies. I went into it with a really open mind but couldn’t get past the lack of morals required to do these types of business ventures. Most (not all) people who do this convince themselves that they are doing good in the world, and work under that delusion. They actually believe they are in it to ‘help’ others’ and those who fail didn’t have the fortitude to make it… that’s what one of my mentors told me.
There are far better money making opportunities out there without feeling like you’re scamming the hell out of someone. The positive is… I have grown from that experience and have a new found focus to succeed by pursuing my own passions.
by AJ22
It’s sick that there are people out there that will be tricked by their “$20,000 per page” copy and their suave marketing men that infiltrate forums and actually shell out thousands of dollars for this.
If you want to make money on the internet, keep your money away from things like this. Join a good affiliate network, and invest in PPC. Read up, do it right, and you can make money overnight. Learn more, improve, re-invest. Again: read, read, read, learn, learn, learn and keep on going. Rinse, and repeat.
Don’t bother with crap like this. All it does is slow you down from becoming prosperous on your own.
by daffydipper
AAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!
Big desiscion!!
I am just a norweegian guy looking fore a way to make money!!
And i read trough all of this comments in this forum and i ask myself> who is right and who isnt about joining Reverse Funnel??
Well its not small potaotes we are talking about here!!
My salary is around $4200 a month!!
And if i,m gonna spent $3000 of this $4200,then i have too be sure its fore real and not just a scam!!
Tod is very convincing!!
He said with marketing skills and the right spirit
we will do great with this company after a while!!
Others say they got out because costs will grow and become an ability fore you and that you will not make money,just end up paying a lot fore nothing!!
I really have too find more forums like this and search trough all internet too read more reviews before i even think of signing up!!
My marketing skills are not that good either!!
So i guess i am domed even before i sign in there??
But if all you doubting guys are wrong.then my future will fore sure look extremely good and i can do the things i have been dreaming of fore years!!
Well i need time too think ore of this before i sign up!!!
Well if i am going too sign up at all i mean!!
Is it all worth it when you can find cheaper solutions and make good money??
Thanks fore all info you gave me in here guys!!
I appreciate it so much!!
So then i guess it is up too me too make this very important#to me at least# descision on what i shall do!!
Take care and have a great summer vacation everybody!!
Thats all!!
by Brad
Daffydipper! Why would you even consider RFS after reading all the comments here? If your marketing skills aren’t all that great, how can you expect to make it online in marketing? Spend a couple bucks on some books for copy writing and advertising instead.
by Club Penguin Cheats
I am amazed at all the people who are still suckered into something like RFS. If people would take the time to research and come to an educated conclusion a lot of these programs would start to go away.
The only person that gets rich is the one at the top.
by wayne barry
If people just put enough effort into saving their money
instead of wasting it, I hurts to say it, but in the end
they would have a lot more money.
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